Kwaste vs Leeus
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Topic: Kwaste vs Leeus
Posted By: Transvaal
Subject: Kwaste vs Leeus
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2019 at 12:40pm
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Saterdag 24 Augustus 2019 in Kimberley, afskop 15:00 Kwaste: TBA Leeus: 15. Tyrone Green; 14. Madosh Tambwe, 13. Wandisile Simelane, 12. Duncan Matthews, 11. Stean Pienaar; 10. Shaun Reynolds, 9. Ross Cronje (Capt); 8. Hacjivah Dayimani, 7. Cyle Brink, 6. Marnus Schoeman, 5. Marvin Orie, 4. Ruben Schoeman, 3. Jacobie Adriaanse, 2. Pieter Jansen, 1. Sti Sithole. Replacements: 16. Jan-Henning Campher, 17. Dylan Smith, 18. Johannes Jonker, 19. Wilhelm van der Sluys, 20. Len Massyn, 21. Dillon Smit, 22. Jan-Louis la Grange, 23. Jamba Ulengo.
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2019 at 12:41pm
| Ongelukkig is ons wedstryd ook eerste so ons gaan nie eintlik weet wat om te doen nie, so die veiligste is maar om vir die maksimum punte te gaan. Makliker gese as gedaan |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2019 at 12:42pm
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2019 at 12:44pm
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Sharks speel teen die Bulle om 19:30 in Pretoria en Cheetahs teen WP in Bloem om 17:15. As Sharks en WP wen en ons verloor, is dit moontlik dat ons nie eers die semis maak nie
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Posted By: Simba
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 6:04am
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Ek weet regtig nie of ons die Kwasse in Kimberley gaan klop nie. Hulle speel baie goeie rugby. D ------------- db |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 7:42am
| Gaan verseker taai wees |
Posted By: Red_Machine
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 8:13am
| The way we have played all season I cant see us beating the Kwas. The players look very average, almost amateurish, basic handling mistakes and rather pathetic set pieces. It's only Green that has consistently proven his worth. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 8:21am
| Ek dink die 2 Schoemans was ook goed |
Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 8:32am
| Ja ek dink ook ons moet positief wees maar ek kan ook nie sien dat ons hulle kan wen nie sal n skok weed |
Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 8:36am
| Difficult, but not impossible task. |
Posted By: Vaal Leeu 3
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 9:15am
| As daar nou een span is wat ek nie sal omgee om teen te verloor nie is dit Griekwas. Sal hulle ook ondersteun verder in die kompetisie |
Posted By: TunaLion
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 9:55am
Jip, ek stem. En hulle het n fantastiese afrigter wat dit regtig sal verdien om 'n beker te wen. ------------- Go LIONS!!!!! |
Vaal Leeu 3 wrote:Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 10:55am
| Plaas spring die leeus vir die kwas se.afrigter ek dink dit sal n baie groot aanwins wees en hy sal n baie groot verskil by ons maak |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 11:02am
Se dit al lankal, maar dit lyk nie of enige van die groot unies vir Brent en Jimmy 'n kans wil gee nie. ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 11:41am
| Ja nee witboer as mens kyk wat hy met Griekwas doen en hulle het nie groot name nie hy leer die ouens om met hart te speel en die basiese goed heele eerste reg te kry jy kan sien hy weet wat hy doen en wat hy wil bereiik |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 12:45pm
Jimmy is n nice ou, maar ek dink nie hy sal sommer waai by die Pumas nie. Hy het n paycut gevat om hulle weer te kom afrig. Ek dink ons probleem het meer te doen met leierskap en dissipline op die veld, as met afrigting. Verder is ons baie uitgedun in sekere posisies en moet ons met o/21 spelers speel, wat dit nie makliker maak nie. |
Posted By: WitBoer
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 1:28pm
Stonehouse gooi al baie lank skimpe dat hy graag 'n Super Rugby span wil afrig. So ek glo hy sal 'n offer van een van die Super Rugby franchises baie ernstig oorweeg. Ek weet nie so lekker nie. Ek verstaan ons het jong spelers, maar ek is glad nie oortuig van ons afrigters se vermoe nie. ------------- "Believe nothing, No matter where you read it, Or who has said it, Not even if I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own common sense" - Buddha |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 1:45pm
| Stonehouse het 'n jaar vroeg van Japan af terg gekom, omdat SARugby beloftes gemaak het dat die Pumas in een of ander franchise kompetisie gaan speel, en dit het sover nie gerealiseer nie. Blameer SARugby. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 1:45pm
| terg= terug |
Posted By: vdwestjo
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 2:08pm
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Stonehouse het my nog nooit oortuig as afrigter nie. Ook veels te arrogant! ------------- Lions4life |
Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 2:10pm
| Brent is a great coach. Has moved around a bit. Would have loved to have seen him stay longer at the Lions. |
Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 2:12pm
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Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2019 at 2:24pm
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Posted By: Niela
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2019 at 9:05am
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We are in trouble, our coaching team looks frail, our youngsters are good , but nothing exceptional (yet) It will be hard for the lions to do well in superugby next couple of years. We need an urgent intervention 1. We need one or two harde baard forwards. 2. We need a class tight head 3. Depth at 9 and 10 (reynolds has done better than I expected, but don't see him dominating as a 10). 4. Defense coach (How is this even a requirement , it should be a given) 5. Head coach ?? not sure, but we need to help swys or make a plan |
Posted By: AK
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2019 at 9:32am
Ek dink Stonehouse is redfelik goed maar stem dat hy nie by ons sal pas nie. Hy sal dalk beter gepas wees me sharks uit kultuur oogpunt uit.....
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2019 at 1:59pm
I agree 100%
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2019 at 4:00pm
Agree with most of your points. Upfront we have struggled, but the with exception of the Bulls game, the young pack has been competitive. Hopefully they will harden and gain experience. Dont think we have the finances to attract big name experienced players. Since the departure of Fav, we have not had a no9 who looked close to being international class, and it does not look like we are interested in developing one. Reynolds has aspects on his game to work on, but seems one of the few inside backs with the ability to breach the defense. Midfield has been a big problem area this season. Simelane has great attacking flair as a ouside back, but he certainly is no 13. I would seriously consider swapping Pienaar and Simelane. No one has put his hand up for Super Rugby for no12 jumper. Our outside backs, especially Green, have been great on attack. Not sure how they will do on defense and under high ball against good opposition. Spot on regarding the coaching
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Posted By: Lion4ever
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2019 at 4:44pm
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2019 at 9:08pm
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I agree that we need some players in certain positions. To me the coaching team doesn't seem frail. We are playing/using the same processes we have been using the past 4 - 5 years, however we have lost almost our whole player personnel. Facts are: 1. Our pack isn't dominating - since 2015 we have lost 4 first choice props, two hookers, 3 starting locks, 4 loose forwards that each can make the starting XV. - Not the coaching team's fault. 2. Our backline sometimes looks flat footed and without plan - Because the forwards don't dominate as they use to, it flows over to our backline play - Not the coaching team's fault. 3. We concede too many tries - maybe part of this can be blamed on the coaching team, but if players keep losing the ball in contact, throw intercept passes, or are not sticking to the defensive structures, you can't blame the coaching team, you have to blame the players. The difference between now and when Ackers started to rebuild the team, is that he had the luxury of not being involved in SR, which gave us the chance to develop our brand of rugby and fine tune it against teams that weren't as good as the SR franchises, or CC teams without their boks. The reality is that you need experienced players in certain positions, which we don't currently have. A prop only usually starts to reach maturity from about 27. Exept for Jacobie, our oldest prop is 24. Our most experienced lock is Orie at 26. If this team (+ the injured players) can stay together for 3 years, and we can sign one or two key players, we will again be a force in SR. |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 7:35am
Valie, dit voel of ek en jy altyd stry..  Ek verstaan wat jy probeer se, maar stem nie heeltemal saam nie.1. Ja ons het 'n helse klomp top spelers verloor. Dit gaan natuurlik die span seermaak. MAAR in vandag se tyd is dit 'n jaarlikse realiteit, en ons is nie die enigste span met wie dit gebeur nie. Mits miskien die NZ spanne wat redelik konstant dieselfde bly. Om teen 'n ander SA span te gaan staan en verloor wat net soveel ontwrigting gehad het pla my. 2. Dis waar wat jy se. Maar mens kannie altyd die forwards blameer as die agterlyn swak doen nie. Ek dink 'n groot deel van die probleem le by ons 9's wat te stadig is en swak diens lewer. 3. Driee met omkeer besit is een ding. Maar dis nie al wanneer ons driee afstaan nie.. Spesifiek dink ek aan Curwin Bosch wat n paar keer die bal ontvang het vanaf 'n skop en dwarsdeur ons span gehardloop het. Sekerlik wanneer iemand skop weet elke ou op die veld om 'n lyn te vorm en die klein bliksem te tackle!!?? Oor die algemeen le ek die blaam vir ons swak verdediging voor die afrigters se deur. "The difference between now and when Ackers started to rebuild the team, is that he had the luxury of not being involved in SR, which gave us the chance to develop our brand of rugby and fine tune it against teams that weren't as good as the SR franchises, or CC teams without their boks." - daarteenoor het Swys die luxury gehad om die helfde van Ackers se wenspan te erf, plus hy was deel van die hele span herlewing so weet presies wat om te doen. Hy het wel sy eerste seisoen die finaal gehaal, maar dit was afdraende al die pad van daar af.. "If this team (+ the injured players) can stay together for 3 years, and we can sign one or two key players, we will again be a force in SR." - Dalk is ek pessimisties maar ek dink nie enige SA span sal ooit weer dieselfde span vir meer as 'n jaar of 2 hou nie. Jonger spelers gebruik super rugby om raakgesien te word, en vat dan die eerste grootste aanbod oorsee. Iemand soos Tyrone Green dink ek gaan nie lank te wag vir die aanbiedinge om in te stroom nie.. Ek stem saam oor die ervaring wat ons kort. Daarom dink ek die Bulls het 'n goeie model om te volg deur 2-3 ervare ouens van oorsee af terug te lok. Al is dit net vir 1 seisoen!
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Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:00pm
 , Elke ou is geregtig op sy opinie, en oor ek van jou verskil, beteken nie noodwendig ek is reg nie. Ek se maar soos ek dit vanaf my hoek af sien. Ek is n liefhebber en nie n kenner nie. Dis goed as ons kan verskil, en steeds mekaar se opinies te respekteer, al verskil dit van ons s'n. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:03pm
| Ek sien Jamba is sommer op die bank |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:04pm
| Matthews was 2 wedstryde op die bank en is nou weer nerens |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:08pm
Span opgedateer, en ek sien Matthews is op 12?
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Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:14pm
| Twee vleeuls wat nie kan pass nie doen diens in die middeveld. |
Posted By: Rooibonte8
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:19pm
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Bly om te sien La Grance is terug op die bank. |
Posted By: Rooibonte8
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:20pm
| Sorry La Grange |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 1:40pm
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Weet nie van Matthews nie, maar Jacobie wat begin is n goeie besluit. Marnus het ons broodnodig om hulle bal stadig te maak. |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 2:23pm
Is hy die vleuel wat ons by WP gekoop het?
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 2:54pm
By Bulle gekoop
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Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 3:00pm
| Dink dis ons beste 23 hierdie CB. Weet net nie van 12 nie maar kom ons kyk. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 3:02pm
| 12 is 'n vreeslike belangrike speler in enige agterlyn, as hy kleitrap gaan 13, 14, 11 en 15 net balle kry as die ander spanskop....LOL! |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 3:04pm
| Ons het ook vreeslik gesukkel in die lynstane, en dit was amper alles met balle wat agter gegooi was, maw op die loosies en nie op die slotte nie |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 3:27pm
| Sien die gereelde Griekwas loskop en skrumskakel speel nie die naweek nie. Twees van hulle beter spelers. Behoort ons 'n kans te gee. |
Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 6:04pm
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 6:22pm
| Die skrummie is beseer en lank uit |
Posted By: OomPB
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2019 at 7:42pm
Dis jammer Zakkie was saam my laaitie destyds in Kleingim. Hy het regtig uitstekend gespeel in die CC.
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Posted By: monster
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2019 at 12:17pm
| Ek kyk so na die oefening fotos van die Leeus op facebook en kan nie help om te dink dit sou beter gewees het as hulle liewer elke dag 12 uur op een of ander skool se B rugby veld wat vol gate en dubbeltjies is geoefen het nie, n saterdag midag 15h00 in Kimerley is n harde afspraak .... jy speel soveel teen die elemente daar as wat jy teen n klomp harde manne speel.... hou dit liewer dop op die kassie met n koue een in die hand . |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2019 at 2:00pm
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Matthews 1.82m, 88kg Rass 1.74m, 84kg
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2019 at 2:05pm
So Matthews is 8cm langer en 4kg swaarder as Rass. Ek en iemand op die forum het gepraat daaroor en wonder hoe Matthews gaan vaar op 12
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2019 at 2:07pm
O ja dankie. Maak my steeds suur dat 2 van ons eerste speler aankope vleuels was..
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2019 at 2:15pm
| Wel dit lyk asof ons die een vleuel nou in 'n binnesenter wil verander. |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2019 at 2:47pm
| Ek het bietjie gaan oplees oor Matthews. Ek sien dat, hoewel hy by die Bulle vleuel en heelgater gespeel het, hy gelys is as n senter ook. Op sy highlight reel lyk dit ook asof hy nogal nie bang is om groter ouens van voor af te tackle nie. Hy pass ook baie goed na albei kante toe. Mens sal egter moet sien wat se tipe bal hy van sy binne spelers af gaan kry, en hoe hy met sy 10 en 13 kombineer. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 3:47pm
| #CurrieCup - #Griquas 7 vs #Lions 19 - HALF TIME |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 3:49pm
| Ons speel baie beter, verdedig goed en gee hulle min kanse. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 3:56pm
| Eerste keer die Curriebeker wat ons rustyd nie agter is nie, so lyk positief |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 4:42pm
| #CurrieCup - #Griquas 26 vs #Lions 27 - FULL TIME |
Posted By: Goue Leeu
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 4:43pm
| WAT 'N WEN MANNE!!!!!!!!! BAIE GOED GESPEEL IN EERSTE HELFTE... BAIE GOED GEDOEN OM HOM DEUR TE HAAK OP DIE EINDE!!!!!! GREAT WEN! |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 4:44pm
| Goeie wen, 2de helfde het die kwaste baie beter gespeel en ons het lekker gesit en slaap |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 4:44pm
| Ek dink dit beteken ons eindig bo aan die log |
Posted By: gertjie0000
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 4:44pm
| Great manne wel verdiend op hulle klipharde veld |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 4:45pm
| Cheetahs kan nog bo ons eindig as hulle 5 punte teen WP kry |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 4:59pm
| Ons het amper nie die semis gehaal nie, om n home semi te kry is n helse bonus. Ek hoop die ouens besef niks minder as n beker sal goed genoeg wees nie. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 5:01pm
| Ons moet maar net hoop WP verdedig goed en keer 4 Cheetahs driee |
Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 5:03pm
| Ducan het goed gespeel, wens net iemand wil vir Simelane in spasie sit, hy word heeltyd met die bal betrap en die dans stories werk nie meer nie. Hy het n goeie offload gegee en hy en Green kombineer mooi wat dit aanbtref. Stean speel ook net beter en beter, hy het baie talent. |
Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 5:37pm
Stem Pienaar goed..Dan koop ons vleuels....Duncan my Baie verras ltk goed op 12 ------------- Once a Lion always a lion |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 5:40pm
| Ons pak was baie goed met tye. Backs het hul kanse goed gebruik. Duncan verdien weer kans op 12. |
Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 5:53pm
Beide Schoemans vir my ysters...Ruben vir my ons player of CC sover ------------- Once a Lion always a lion |
Posted By: LeeuBrul
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 5:53pm
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Orie maak ook n Groot verskil ------------- Once a Lion always a lion |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 5:54pm
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Posted By: PaBz0r
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 6:09pm
| Stem Ruben is n yster. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 7:03pm
| The Lions will play their Currie Cup semi-final at Ellis Park next weekend against Griquas |
Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 7:09pm
Positief of negatief? Ek het gehoor hy het aangeslaan en ons n drie gekos..?
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 7:09pm
| Either way, welgedaan manne! |
Posted By: valie
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2019 at 8:27pm
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Posted By: Leeubok
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2019 at 12:01pm
O OK, dis goed om te hoor. As hulle nou net gom aan sy hande kan smeer om nie die bal te drop nie..
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2019 at 12:27pm
| Ek het gedink ons het die wedstryd weg gegooi toe ons Marnus en Ruben sub...ek sou eerder vir Orie en Brink afhaal op daardie stadium...die 2 Schoemans was regtig ons beste 2 spelers en dan word hulle gesub...was nie slim nie. Brink vat altyd so lank om aan die gang tge kom na beserings, hy was vir my gister maar baie stil. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2019 at 1:16pm
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Hier is die hoogtepunte https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU1kLAZyX-c" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU1kLAZyX-c
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Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2019 at 1:25pm
| 2 Kwaste driee van mauls...ons sal die mauls beter moet verdedig, maar daai eerste drie van hulle dink ek het die skeidsregter verkeerdelik toegeken, dit het vir my gelyk soos obstruksie. Met die 3rde kwaste drie was dit ook naby aan 'n aanslaan...nooit die kykweer gesien nie so moeilik om te se. Ook swak verdediging van die Leeus met die kwaste se 4rde drie |
Posted By: emiel1
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2019 at 1:36pm
| Verstaan ook nie die subs van die 2 Schoemans en Stean Pienaar nie. Hulle was ons beste spelers. Vir Griekwas was hulle flank van der Merwe 'n yster, hulle plaasvervanger skrumskakel Christiaan Meyer het impak gemaak en hulle no 12 (Swarts) was goed. Ons het weer klippe gekou in die dryfmaal bewegings vanaf lynstane. |
Posted By: Transvaal
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2019 at 10:54am
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Mylpale in die wedstryd: Was Pieter Jansen se 20ste Curriebeker wedstryd. Was Cyle Brink se 20ste Curriebeker wedstryd. Was Dillon Smit se 20ste Curriebeker wedstryd. Was Jamba Ulengo se debuut vir die Leeus.
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