LionsWorld Forum : Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas

LionsWorld Forum : Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 15 May 2026 17:23:51 +0000 Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:50:26 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9181 <![CDATA[LionsWorld Forum]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/ <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : Transvaal wrote: Leeubok...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56566&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56566 Author: Red_Machine
Subject: 9181
Posted: 24-Jul-2021 at 12:50am

Transvaal wrote:

Leeubok wrote:

Jaco Kriel is nou al maande lank amper reg om te speel Confused

Sukkel blykbaar nog met 'n kniebesering

I love JK, but why do we waste money on players that are unable to take the field or can't play more than 1 game in a season???? ]]> Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:50:26 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56566&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56566 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : Leeubok wrote: Transvaal...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56559&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56559 Author: valie
Subject: 9181
Posted: 23-Jul-2021 at 12:00pm

Leeubok wrote:

Transvaal wrote:

Leeubok wrote:

Jaco Kriel is nou al maande lank amper reg om te speel Confused

Sukkel blykbaar nog met 'n kniebesering

Ja, het so gehoor op die clip van Van Rooyen.. Dis 'n groot jammerte. Ek dink spelers soos Jaco en WW kan 'n groot impak op n span he. Daar is niemand in ons span wat uitstaan as 'n gebore leier en lei van voor nie

Ek stem saam. Horne is nog baie onervare. Odendaal het nie sleg gedoen nie, maar Jaco of WW sal ons span baie lig.]]> Fri, 23 Jul 2021 12:00:55 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56559&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56559 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : Transvaal wrote: Leeubok...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56550&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56550 Author: Leeubok
Subject: 9181
Posted: 23-Jul-2021 at 9:34am

Transvaal wrote:

Leeubok wrote:

Jaco Kriel is nou al maande lank amper reg om te speel Confused

Sukkel blykbaar nog met 'n kniebesering

]]> Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:34:15 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56550&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56550 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : Leeubok wrote:Jaco Kriel is...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56548&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56548 Author: Transvaal
Subject: 9181
Posted: 23-Jul-2021 at 9:25am

Leeubok wrote:

Jaco Kriel is nou al maande lank amper reg om te speel Confused

Sukkel blykbaar nog met 'n kniebesering

]]> Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:25:48 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56548&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56548 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : Transvaal wrote:Ons laaste...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56547&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56547 Author: Goue Leeu
Subject: 9181
Posted: 23-Jul-2021 at 9:24am

Transvaal wrote:

Ons laaste verloor teen Griekwas was in 2016, was in Kimberley. Dis ons eerste verloor teen Griekwas op Ellis Park sedert 2012

2012 - Die jaar toe ons uitgeskop is uit Super Rugby!! Die Unie beter dinge baie vinnig regruk want die gevaartekens is oral.. Ons speel basies met ons vol span in die Curriebeker en word verneder deur die Pumas en Griekwas.. Totaal onaanvaarbaar.]]> Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:24:35 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56547&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56547 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : Ons laaste verloor teen Griekwas...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56546&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56546 Author: Transvaal
Subject: 9181
Posted: 23-Jul-2021 at 9:13am

Ons laaste verloor teen Griekwas was in 2016, was in Kimberley. Dis ons eerste verloor teen Griekwas op Ellis Park sedert 2012]]> Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:13:07 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56546&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56546 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : naand almal, weet iemand dalk...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56545&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56545 Author: True loin
Subject: 9181
Posted: 22-Jul-2021 at 6:10pm

naand almal, weet iemand dalk iets van ross cronje, is hy beseer waarvan ek nie weet nie of is hy ook dalk oppad. Gewoonlik as spelers nie meer gekies word nie dan hoor hul na n ruk hul is oppad erens anders]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2021 18:10:42 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56545&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56545 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : If Erasmus or Nkosi were capable...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56543&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56543 Author: emiel1
Subject: 9181
Posted: 22-Jul-2021 at 3:18pm

If Erasmus or Nkosi were capable of guiding the team after the Currie Cup, then by all means, put them in charge. But their professional record shows they aren't even close to being ready. They are a big part of the problem, and not the solution, not even on a temp basis.

Edited by emiel1 - 22-Jul-2021 at 3:19pm]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2021 15:18:49 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56543&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56543 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : Agree that cash is not delivering,...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56542&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56542 Author: L13
Subject: 9181
Posted: 22-Jul-2021 at 3:01pm

Agree that cash is not delivering, but putting Erasmus (our defensive coach for the past three seasons) or Nkosi ( our backline coach for the past two seasons), the two areas where we are most lacking in coaching, certainly is not the answer.

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I meant till the end of the Currie Cup while we find a new coach from outside the Lions setup. Because lets be honest, halfway through the Currie Cup and we are last...it can't get worse.

Those 2 came to mind as possible caretaker coaches because Sean has a good rugby brain (you don't do what he did at Paarl Gim without being half decent) and he knows the younger guys either from school or from the u21s. Nkosi had a good team last season that played good rugby and looked like they enjoyed themselves. Yes, they had a bad final against the Bulls but they were also the only team to beat the Bulls in the round robin. Also quite a few of his team are now in the seniors.

]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2021 15:01:06 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56542&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56542 <![CDATA[Match 5 - Lions vs Griquas : L13 wrote:It was difficult...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=9181&PID=56541&title=match-5-lions-vs-griquas#56541 Author: emiel1
Subject: 9181
Posted: 22-Jul-2021 at 2:38pm

L13 wrote:

It was difficult to watch. Poor decision making, poor execution and poor disciple. Don't blame rustiness, rustiness affects handing and timing not a complete lack of game plan. It is also easy to blame players and say they aren't good enough and so on...but how many of these players have pedigree (SA Schools, SA U20, Bok squads/training groups, super rugby experience)? We have seen it back in the mid to late 2000s, guys who were seen as not good enough moved union and suddenly were in the Bok mix. Player ability is not as big an issue as some think. Well drilled club and junior players will run a top team close.

Tactically we aren't good enough. The "pick and go" through 16 phases early in the game despite the blackline having a huge overlap highlighted this - not a single player had the game awareness to go - hey guys, this isn't working but look at the easy try through the hands out right. At no point did it look like there was any plan in that moment. This is coaching. Coaches not creating and developing game plans and structures, and not coaching/empowering players to understand what is going on and recognize opportunities. Game management can be coached.

Can we also stop kidding ourselves every time we sneak a win against the Bulls, Sharks or Stormers. These are lucky results. When was the last time we comfortably beat one of these teams? Not defended like trojans or grabbed a last minute score, I mean comfortable from the start to the end, out play them completely and the result was never in doubt.

Cash must go! The sooner the better, put Sean Erasmus or the u21 coach, Mziwakhe Nkosi (both of them have coached many of these players at school or in the juniors) in charge for the rest of the Currie Cup. Then find a real coach (easier said than done right now). Cash and top management have screwed up the team culture that promoting from within is not an option - we need a fresh start.

Out of interest, I remember an email was sent to Rudolf Straeuli highlighting our concerns a few months ago - was there ever a response?

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