LionsWorld Forum : Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 16 May 2026 23:59:05 +0000 Wed, 29 May 2024 08:56:57 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=12042 <![CDATA[LionsWorld Forum]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/ <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : Spot on, Lion4ever! Simplify our...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68438&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68438 Author: Leeuplesier
Subject: 12042
Posted: 29-May-2024 at 8:56am

Spot on, Lion4ever! Simplify our game please!]]> Wed, 29 May 2024 08:56:57 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68438&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68438 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : Leeuplesier, unfortunately the...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68426&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68426 Author: Lion4ever
Subject: 12042
Posted: 25-May-2024 at 3:22pm

Leeuplesier, unfortunately the laws are so complicated, made worse by refs interpretations, so consistency flies out the window. It's time World Rugby looked at simplifying the laws, making it more enjoyable for players,  refs and spectators. Ad you say, the TMO has the technology,  but it must be used sparingly, and only when there is uncertainty. ]]> Sat, 25 May 2024 15:22:36 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68426&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68426 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : Wits gaan baie teleurgestel wees,...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68425&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68425 Author: monster
Subject: 12042
Posted: 24-May-2024 at 6:53pm

Wits gaan baie teleurgestel wees, hy kan Junie so biedtjie konsetreer op sy studies

Edited by monster - 24-May-2024 at 6:54pm]]> Fri, 24 May 2024 18:53:13 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68425&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68425 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : The Disciplinary process related to...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68424&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68424 Author: Transvaal
Subject: 12042
Posted: 24-May-2024 at 5:49pm

The Disciplinary process relatedto Ruan Venter Red Card in the Vodacom United Rugby Championship Round 17 game against Glasgow Warriors on Saturday May 18 has resulted in a four game suspension.

 

After anact of foul play by Emirates Lions player No 20 (Ruan Venter), referee Craig Evans showed the Player a Red Card in the 35th minute of the game under Law9.13 – A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously.Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting totackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle startsbelow the line of the shoulders.

 

In thePlayer’s responses to the Judicial Officer overseeing the disciplinary process (Tommy Dalton), he had accepted that he had committed an act of foulplay which warranted a Red Card. Mr. Dalton found that the incident met theRed Card threshold, with entry of mid-range warranting six weeks. The Playerreceived two weeks mitigation due to his apology, good record and his full engaged participation in the disciplinary process which results in a four gamesuspension.

 

Shouldthe Player complete the World Rugby Coaching Intervention Programme then thesanction will be reduced by one week.

 

Fixtures Ruan Venter is unavailable for:

DHL Stormers v Emirates Lions, 1 June 2024 Vodacom URC

WITS URC v Alberton, 8 June 2024

WITS URC v Roodenpoort, 15 June 2024

WITS URC v Raiders, 22 June 2024

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Subject: 12042
Posted: 24-May-2024 at 10:29am

Agreed L4e, however, the TMO has the technology at his disposal to revisit the incident and to inform the ref of his opinion. My gripe is that intelligent human beings -- especially those that are trained and paid -- should be able to discern intent in contact situations. If they can't, the benefit of the doubt rule should apply, as it did (successfully) for decades. The rules have made our game so complex that potential newcomers find it unattractive. Coaches like Rassie who are smart enough to exploit the ambiguity of the rules -- out of sheer frustration -- are labelled unsporting, or even cheats. If it carries on like this we'll need AI to make decisions in future. What a sad day that will be.]]> Fri, 24 May 2024 10:29:50 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68423&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68423 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : Unfortunately the TMO does not...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68419&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68419 Author: Lion4ever
Subject: 12042
Posted: 23-May-2024 at 6:29pm

Unfortunately the TMO does not have the discretion to decide if foul play was intentional or not. His job is to confirm if foul play has taken place. Thereafter it is to look for mitigation. In our previous match against Cardiff, one of their players received a fractured eye socket due to a swing arm, which was deemed a rugby accident, as there was no clear evidence of foul play. Swings and roundabouts. 

But still super happy about the great win.
]]> Thu, 23 May 2024 18:29:53 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68419&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68419 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : Stem 100 persent saam jou, want...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68416&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68416 Author: gertjie0000
Subject: 12042
Posted: 22-May-2024 at 2:25pm

Stem 100 persent saam jou, want een ou gaan in om n ou seer te maak hy kry rooi en n ander ou tref perongeluk die ou se kop en hy kry ook n rooi ja die een word langer geskors maar in die wedstryd is die straf dieselfde en daarmee het ek n groot issue]]> Wed, 22 May 2024 14:25:22 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68416&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68416 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : Belaglik verby. Die reels raak...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68415&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68415 Author: Leeuplesier
Subject: 12042
Posted: 22-May-2024 at 1:58pm

Belaglik verby. Die reels raak elke jaar meer ingewikkeld. Rugby is 'n kontaksport wat volspoed gespeel word. Spelers het gewoonlik 'n breukdeel van 'n sekonde om 'n besluit te neem; reelmakers en skeidsregters neem dit nie in ag nie. Met behulp van die TMO is dit mos maklik om die verskil tussen 'n opsetlike en 'n onopsetlike kopstamp raak te sien. Veral rooikaarte behoort slegs vir opsetlike vuilspel gewys word. Dis regtig nie so moeilik nie.]]> Wed, 22 May 2024 13:58:55 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68415&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68415 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : PaBz0r wrote:Het nie die druk...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68397&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68397 Author: Transvaal
Subject: 12042
Posted: 20-May-2024 at 11:14am

Originally posted by PaBz0r PaBz0r wrote:

Het nie die druk die gesig in die grond storie gesien nie.. die ref ook nie.. Maar ja die kop kontak geval gaan jy 'n kaart kry, al was sy hande uitgerek voor hom op die bal.. ai hulle kan darem maar "beter" reels uitdink 



Hy het die losskakel baie hard geduik, miskien so effens aan die laat kant, en die losskakel wil toe bietjie boks, (teen iemand wat baie groter as hy is), hy druk toe basies die losskakel op die grond vas, en toe hy opstaan, druk hy met sy hand op sy kop, nie heeltemal seker dat dit 'n geel kaart werd was nie. Ek het die hele ding deur my verkyker dopgehou en toe mis ek die drie....LOL!
]]> Mon, 20 May 2024 11:14:50 +0000 http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68397&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68397 <![CDATA[Match 17 - Lions vs Glasgow Warriors : Het nie die druk die gesig in...]]> http://www.lionsworld.co.za/forumnew/forum_posts.asp?TID=12042&PID=68396&title=match-17-lions-vs-glasgow-warriors#68396 Author: PaBz0r
Subject: 12042
Posted: 20-May-2024 at 9:34am

Het nie die druk die gesig in die grond storie gesien nie.. die ref ook nie.. Maar ja die kop kontak geval gaan jy 'n kaart kry, al was sy hande uitgerek voor hom op die bal.. ai hulle kan darem maar "beter" reels uitdink 


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